Fitting Wire Wheels on a MiGi

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  • #236031
    Dbanta
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    @dbanta

    I am in the process of fitting wire wheels to the MiGi TDr, Here are the adapter I purchased from MWS in the UK. Very nice and made just for the VW bolt pattern. I have purchased some like new used 15 inch 48 spoke wires off of ebay. I have also purchased the liners and the tubes from Moss. I am looking for a local company that can mount and balance them and repair two bent spokes. If you have any suggestions let me know.

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    #267347
    Dbanta
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    @dbanta

    Another picture

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    #267348
    Dbanta
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    @dbanta

    one more

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    #267349
    Royal
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    @royal

    Very pretty.  Already drilled for the VW pattern?  (That’s almost like cheating.) These look exactly like Triumph adapters.  I assume that the wheels are standard 48 spoke MG/Tr wheels?  If so, you will probably need new wheel lug bolts that have a shorter hex/dome that don’t hit the wire wheel inner basket.  

    If you need a couple of new spokes, Rimmer Bros in the UK carries them.  I’m not sure you should try  “repairing” a bent spoke.  Especially on a 48 spoke wheel.  (Mine are 72 spoke)  Did you get chromed, or stainless, or painted wheels? 

    …and you’ll need one of those 17(I think) ply plywood things to help you tighten and take off your fancy new two eared knock offs. 

    Even though I have 72 spoked wheels, I much prefer the look of the 48’s, but you gotta keep your underside nice and sparkly clean ’cause everything shows. 

    Royal2016-02-27 14:14:31

    #267350
    crash55
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    @crash55

    find a good bicycle guy. servicing them is just like a cycle wheel or a good motorcycle shop I’m in pgh,pa if your up this way I can do it have a trueing stand & wrenches for the job

    #267351
    Dbanta
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    @dbanta

    Yeah Royal –  drilled for vw and ready to go. I should be able to replace a bent spoke. It is very slight but I know good wire wheel shops can do it. Yes,’i will have to look for lugs with a shorter head. I am not sure what color to paint them. Yes they are painted. I may go with the standard silver but I have been toying with the idea of black. It will be interesting to see how much the adapters add to the track of the car.

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    #267352
    Dbanta
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    @dbanta

    Thanks crash. If you are in Pburg that might not be a bad ride. Let me see what I can find locally. I appreciate the offer!

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    #267353
    Royal
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    @royal

    If mine weren’t chromed, I’d be black. 

    #267354
    Paul Mossberg
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    @pmossberg

    Oh man… This has the potential to cause bank account problems for a lot of TDr owners.

    These are the first adapters I have ever seen, drilled for the VW bolt pattern.

    Here is MWS’ web site:

    http://www.mws.co.uk/site/cms/contentChapterView.asp?chapter=1

    VW is not in the fitment guide. The adapter parts numbers are RSK380 (right side) and RSK381 (left side).

    They increase the track by 1.25 inches on each side.

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    PMOSSBERG2016-02-28 10:37:50

    Paul Mossberg
    Former Owner of a 1981 Classic Roadsters Ltd. Duchess (VW)
    2005 Intermeccanica Roadster

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    #267355
    Royal
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    @royal

    It’s a sad sad day for us old timers who adapted Triumph wire wheel adapters to fit VW’s 130mm bolt pattern.  My MiGi just got a lot less unique. 

    However, I’m happy for those of you who have wanted “real” British knock-off wire wheels.  (I guess.)   

    #267356
    Dbanta
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    @dbanta

    I have created a monster! It’s…….ALIVE!!!!

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    #303558
    billnparts
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    @billnparts

    One of my customers saw my car today for the first time and informed me he has a set of knock off wire wheels from his daughters 1966 MGB. All he has is the wheels. No attaching parts. He says he’ll bring them in for me to photograph. If anyone has interest, stay tuned for photos. He sounds as if he’ll accept any reasonable offer.

    Bill Ascheman
    Fiberfab Ford
    Modified 5.0, 5sp., 4:11
    Autocross & Hillclimb
    "Drive Happy"

    #303559
    Mickey Richaud
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    @mickeyrichaud

    One of my customers saw my car today for the first time and informed me he has a set of knock off wire wheels from his daughters 1966 MGB. All he has is the wheels. No attaching parts. He says he’ll bring them in for me to photograph. If anyone has interest, stay tuned for photos. He sounds as if he’ll accept any reasonable offer.

    Just a heads-up:  MGB wheels are 14″ diameter.  Won’t look “right” on T-series, replica or original.

    #303560
    Royal
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    @royal

    Sorry, Mickey-Richard, but I put real British knock off wire wheels from a Triumph Stag on my TDr about 4 years ago.  I also put slightly larger P185x75R14 tires on.  The result is almost identical outer tire diameter as the popular TD 165R15 tires so as to not change the car’s profile …….and the speedometer is still accurate.  You’ve got to be mighty good to look at my car and tell that I have 14″ tires.  I have yet to see anyone turn their nose up.  Quite the opposite.  Even from real TD owners.

    I will add, however, that if you intend to put disc brakes on a VW chassis’ed TDr (which I also did) you may have to do minor modification to the calipers to fit them.

    #303561
    edward ericson
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    @edsnova

    The key metric to watch out for is the inch increase in track width, imho.

    #303562
    billnparts
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    @billnparts

    Yes, 14″x4-1/2″.

    Oh, and the wires on my car are 14″. Look great.

    Bill Ascheman
    Fiberfab Ford
    Modified 5.0, 5sp., 4:11
    Autocross & Hillclimb
    "Drive Happy"

    #303563
    Mickey Richaud
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    @mickeyrichaud

    OK, I concede. 🙂

    #303564
    scubasteve
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    @scubasteve

    Very nice! 😎  Sounds like you have a good plan. Remember to send us pics of the finished project!

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    #303565
    Tom Vilardi
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    @vilardi

    My British Coach Works Model ’52 has 14 Inch wheels too mounted with P185 75 R14 tires.  As far as I can tell the wheels are original to the car (factory manufacturered vintage 1986).

    I’ve been looking for replacements and there is a Continenal 185 80 R14 called the “Vanco 8” which is the highest aspect ratio (width to height.. the “80” representing 80% of the width of the tire) I have been able to find in the US.

    The Vredestein’s I see on many “Tin TD’s” even with 15 inch wheels are actually slightly smaller in diameter than a 185 75 R14.

     

     

     

    Tom Vilardi
    BCW Model 52
    South Orange NJ

    #303581
    billnparts
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    @billnparts

    Ok, I stopped on my way home from work and, surprisingly, he had brought them in. Hopefully my photos will make it.

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    All right! Four fronts and one rear(pulled at random). He has no use for these and basically wants the room they take up. He will pretty much accept the first offer he gets.

    Bill Ascheman
    Fiberfab Ford
    Modified 5.0, 5sp., 4:11
    Autocross & Hillclimb
    "Drive Happy"

    #303582
    edward ericson
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    @edsnova

    How do the splines look in those, Bill?

    #307465
    Tom Vilardi
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    @vilardi

    Does anyone know if the older style Triumph wire wheel set-up also increase the track by 1.25 inches on both sides like the MWS version?

    I’m assuming the MSW wheels/rims are 15 inch.  I’m seeing references to the Triumph Spitfire wire rims being 13 inches?  Is that correct?

     

    Tom Vilardi
    BCW Model 52
    South Orange NJ

    #307467
    edward ericson
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    @edsnova

    It does.

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