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  • #234821
    Anonymous
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    Hi,  Where  are the 4 points to put the arms for getting the MiGi up on a lift?  My mechanic and I are not sure where to put them.  Looks flimsy under there.  Having ball joints and tie rods done.  Thanks, Dennis P

    #257145
    KentT
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    @kentt

    Put the pads for the rear lift arms on the floorpan brackets for the factory jack points.  Closer in to the center, is better, rather than on the outside.

    Put the pads for the front lift arms under the pan, near the center tunnel at the front.  Put one under the master cylinder, and space the other front one about the same distance from the center.

    KentT2013-07-31 10:36:42

    Early FF TDr on 69 VW pan
    Slowly coming back from the ashes...

    #257146
    Paul Mossberg
    Keymaster

    @pmossberg

    The answer will depend on VW vs. Chevy/Ford with a full chassis

     

    For VW’s, I have had a different experience than Kent.

     

    When you remove the steel body, you remove a lot of the strength around the stock jacking points. All you have left is the upside down U channel around the perimeter of the stamped steel floor panels. Put a floor jack under the stock jack point and start lifting…I bet you will see a lot of deflection before the car starts to rise.

     

    I always use the rear torsion tubes, or the bottom of the swing arm (near the wheel hub) as the main lift points. 

     

    For the front, I agree with Kent, as long as you are ahead of the front “bulkhead.” You could also use the front torsion tubes, just watch out for the grease fittings.

    Paul Mossberg
    Former Owner of a 1981 Classic Roadsters Ltd. Duchess (VW)
    2005 Intermeccanica Roadster

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    #257147
    KentT
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    @kentt

    Paul, I’ve been jacking mine with a floor jack as I described, without issues.  I can see that using the torsion tubes, front and rear, would be the most solid.  

    But jacking the rear using the torsion tube, can be a challenge — or at least with my small floor jack it seems to be…. I routinely jack the entire front up from the center of the front, lower torsion bar.  
    Personally, I don’t like to use any point that “springs” unless I have a specific need to, such as jacking the suspension up to install shock bolts.

    Early FF TDr on 69 VW pan
    Slowly coming back from the ashes...

    #257148
    edward ericson
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    @edsnova

    I use the torsion tube in front–can lift both wheels easily if I’m near the middle. In back I use either the torsion tube housing or the square tube subframe from the kit. If I’m in the middle of that the whole back of the car comes up pretty easy.

    Word to the mechanic: whatever you lift it with, be damn careful in removing any of the front suspension. Years ago I just missed a co-worker drop a Bug off the lift. He pulled the front beam and that unbalanced it enough that the thing toppled backwards five-six feet onto the concrete floor. Our cars are (for the most part) much lighter than a Bug in front–so the potential problem could be worse.

    Get those rear lift points back as far as possible–at least to the torsion housing. And–just for paranoia’s sake–strap the front down to one of the front lift bars with a tie-down or chain.

    #257149
    Paul Mossberg
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    @pmossberg

    That there is good advice Ed!

    Paul Mossberg
    Former Owner of a 1981 Classic Roadsters Ltd. Duchess (VW)
    2005 Intermeccanica Roadster

    If you own a TDr and are not in the Registry, please go to https://tdreplica.com/forums/topic/mg-td-replica-registry/ and register (you need to copy and paste the link)

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