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  • #235453

    dave-b
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    @dave-b

    How did this door get hinged in the rear?  Was there actually a series made with the suicide doors, or is this custom work?

    #261951

    royal
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    @royal

    I believe that early Lafers had suicide doors.

    #261952

    dave-b
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    @dave-b

    Thanks, Roy.  Just about the time I think I have it all figured out . . .

    #261953

    texag71
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    @texag71

    That’s a new one on me, too.

    1981 Lafer TI
    1600 cc Type 1 engine

    #261954

    bebop
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    @bebop

    MINE HAD ‘SUICIDE’ DOORS TOO

    I THOUGHT THEY ALL DID 

    I AM PRETTY SURE THAT ORIGINAL METAL MGTD’S ALL HAD SUICIDE DOORS.

    Randy in Chandler Arizona, great B-bopp'in teritory. I must have the only one in the country made by Rich Industries in Port Elizabeth, South Africa, on a 1986 Ford Cortina (english ford escort) It's a 1600cc straight four cylinder front engne, 4 speed, changed from right side driver to left side with several shafts and u-joints. BEBOP because I once had an MGB with license plate MG-BEPOP in Virginia.

    #261955

    bebop
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    @bebop

    I THOUGHT THEY ALL HAD SUICIDE DOORS

    Randy in Chandler Arizona, great B-bopp'in teritory. I must have the only one in the country made by Rich Industries in Port Elizabeth, South Africa, on a 1986 Ford Cortina (english ford escort) It's a 1600cc straight four cylinder front engne, 4 speed, changed from right side driver to left side with several shafts and u-joints. BEBOP because I once had an MGB with license plate MG-BEPOP in Virginia.

    #261956

    kall
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    @kall

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    A “suicide door” is the slang term for a door hinged at its rear rather than the front.[1][2][3] Such doors were originally used on horse-drawn carriages,[4] but are rarely found on modern vehicles due primarily to safety concerns.

    Popularized in the custom car trade,[5] the term is avoided by major automobile manufacturers in favor of alternatives such as “coach doors” (Rolls-Royce),[3] “FlexDoors” (Opel),[6] “freestyle doors” (Mazda),[3] “rear access doors” (Saturn),[3] and “rear-hinged doors”.[1]

    Perhaps we could adopt one of these less intimidating alternatives.:lol:

    #261957

    pmossberg
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    @pmossberg

    Bebop…correct. Original TC, TD and TF had rear hinged doors.

    As do most replicas.

    MP Lafer is an exception. They engineered solid side windows that would open and close with the doors. And it kind of required a front hinged door.

    PMOSSBERG2015-08-09 20:49:05

    Paul Mossberg
    1982 Classic Roadsters Ltd. Duchess (VW)
    2005 Intermeccanica Roadster

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    #261958

    pmossberg
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    @pmossberg

    Found this when I was digging up pictures for the above post.

    Pretty cool!

    Paul Mossberg
    1982 Classic Roadsters Ltd. Duchess (VW)
    2005 Intermeccanica Roadster

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    #261959

    pmossberg
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    @pmossberg

    And this! Very cool!

    http://motores.com.py/foro/index.php?threads/proyecto-mp-lafer.14341/

    PMOSSBERG2015-08-09 20:54:20

    Paul Mossberg
    1982 Classic Roadsters Ltd. Duchess (VW)
    2005 Intermeccanica Roadster

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    #261960

    sabreur76
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    @sabreur76

    #261961

    pmossberg
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    @pmossberg

    My vote is no. I do not believe that is an MP Lafer.

     

    Windshield frame gives it away.

    PMOSSBERG2015-08-10 15:53:30

    Paul Mossberg
    1982 Classic Roadsters Ltd. Duchess (VW)
    2005 Intermeccanica Roadster

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    #261962

    pmossberg
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    @pmossberg

    And because of the way the side windows are engineered, MP Lafers usually do not have wind wings.

    Paul Mossberg
    1982 Classic Roadsters Ltd. Duchess (VW)
    2005 Intermeccanica Roadster

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    #261963

    sabreur76
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    @sabreur76

    The guy that took the shot says it’s a Daytona but I didn’t know that Daytonas had regular doors.

    Vicenç - (bee sense)
    Pembroke Pines, FL
    1983 FiberFab MiGi II - "Montse"

    #261964

    royal
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    @royal

    To my knowledge, only Lafer did not have “suicide” doors.

    It looks to me like the builder or some prior owner re-hinged them to open from the rear.    

    #261965

    pmossberg
    Keymaster

    @pmossberg

    Noticed two other differences.

    The “louvers” on an MP Lafer are raised above the surface of the side panel, convex if you will. On every other TDr that I have seen, the “louvers” are concave.

    And the one that should have been obvious to us from the start, the red TDr in the picture Vicenç posted has snaps for side curtains. Unless the owner had a tonneau cover, an MP Lafer would not have those snaps.

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    Paul Mossberg
    1982 Classic Roadsters Ltd. Duchess (VW)
    2005 Intermeccanica Roadster

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    #261966

    pmossberg
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    @pmossberg

    Here’s another view of the car Vicenç posted.

    An MP Lafer has a grill medallion that says “MP”

    This one looks like a MiGi medallion.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/zappadong/3907216706/in/photolist-ux9aHA-5XrgJG-p6epiu-oQLhCg-pDg1Qc-phRAGV-phPXgB-6Xgvph-phRBhH-phRiS3-8cUex2-s2Fh6w-s4o15m-caNekb-caNfiG-88ays1-88ayW3-2T8YFM-azmd75-oB6frh-3ggCYE-c78nxL-oMR3FF-p6eCGJ-oQLvQ8-oPSAZc-pHrsv4-pJHSgL-pHtFUU-pDxgkM-pzjX4g-7ZfBEu-uYvvVX-f14KcH-bVv4mB-eUvKXf-ouMfgu-oKeRzC-oMgJvk-cem6RL-oMeYQJ-oMgF88-oMgG9X-tvYkTy-pDg3sv-boeJ1b-pDfZVr-pDxhVa-pxivoG-rLXa4s/

    PMOSSBERG2015-08-10 20:21:09

    Paul Mossberg
    1982 Classic Roadsters Ltd. Duchess (VW)
    2005 Intermeccanica Roadster

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    #261967

    sabreur76
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    @sabreur76

    Good catch, Paul.  I had seen that pic before but I didn’t make the connection.

    Vicenç - (bee sense)
    Pembroke Pines, FL
    1983 FiberFab MiGi II - "Montse"

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