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  • #236070
    Toller
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    @toller

    Would like to replace fibreglass faux spare wheel with real spare on my FF. Have removed six bolts holding fibreglass fake, not sure but suspect fake may have added some structural strength to engine cover on so new carrier has to restore integrity to cover and have strength to support added weight of wheel, tire and hub cap. Has anyone done this? If so can you provide advice and pics. I have access to metal brake so was looking at just bending a bridge type carrier but would like to avoid fabricating some by trial and error. Second request is to find out what kind of support struts could be used to support weight of engine cover and spare. The 1×2 pine I use now has to be replaced with something more appropriate. I know it is functional but idea of having cover crash down on head or hands while working on engine is one lesson I would like to avoid

    David B Dixon
    Port Perry ON CA
    Sabine

    #267642
    newkitman
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    @newkitman

    Fiberfil kits use the fake spare to mount the metal spare tire mount. The spare tire mount is a metal bracket within two studs that you drill through the fiberglass mount. Insert metal bracket through drilled holes and secure with washer, lock washer and nut. Then mount actual spare on the two studs. Look at the VW manual section of Classic Motor Carriages in the reference library tab on the left. Its on page 39.newkitman2016-03-30 18:14:54

    Allen Caron
    VW based 53MGTD - "MoneyPenny"
    "If one thing matters, everything matters" - from the book The Shack

    #267643
    Dbanta
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    @dbanta

    You can buy hood hindges that will work and take the weight. I will post my pictures tomorrow. Also I built my own carrier using a simple design I stole from Shu another member. I will post those pictures as well. Mg magic sellers a spare tire carrier bolt in for $80 (?).

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    #267644
    Paul Mossberg
    Keymaster

    @pmossberg

    The bracket from MG Magic:

    http://www.mgmagicclassicmotorparts.com/spare-tire-bracket/

    Paul Mossberg
    Former Owner of a 1981 Classic Roadsters Ltd. Duchess (VW)
    2005 Intermeccanica Roadster

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    #267645
    Dbanta
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    @dbanta

    Spare mounted

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    #267646
    Dbanta
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    @dbanta

    Right Side

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    #267647
    Dbanta
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    @dbanta

    Left Side

    Okay so the first picture is the spare mounted. If you look you can see the flat steel braket through the hub hole on the tire. I am still looking for the pictures I have of Schu’s design. It it basically a piece of 2″x1/8th”x48″ flat steel that has been bent to a U shape. I marked the middle of the 48″ steel and measured the inside of the tire where the two lugs are opposite each other. Then it was a matter of bending the steel to the depth of the tire and rim. When this is done you will have a U shape with two long ends. You bend the ends over again so they just hit the tire. Trim those end to your opening. Use the left over two pieces to reinforce the mounting bracket at the outside edges.

    The other two pictures are of the hood supports. I found them on e-bay. They were from a kit build of a cobra. (23$ for the set.) I have since found that these are fairly universal 23 inch hood supports. You can see that I used a piece of 2″ angle aluminum to build the mounting points on the hood. I simply found the point on the body where they would give me the extension I needed and mounted the base there.

    I hope this helps..

    Dbanta2016-03-31 11:27:52

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    #267648
    HappyJack
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    @happyjack

    I have one of those brackets from MG Magic that I never put on Abby (my FiberFab Tdr that I sold last year).  And my BCW Tdr already has a spare tire mount — so I don’t need this bracket.  

    It came without mounting hardware  — so you d have to add those misc. nuts and bolts and washers.
    PM me if you are interested.  
    Happy Jack
    #267649
    Dbanta
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    @dbanta

    If Happyjack has the MG magic bracket and he will give it to you at the “club” price 😉 then
    the MG Magic bracket is probably the easiest way to go. Here is my bracket from the bottom.

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    #267650
    Toller
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    @toller

    Dean

    Perfect just the kind of info I was looking for. 
    Two questions, any stress cracks in the engine cover due to the weight of the wheel or have the two right angle strips of metal distributed the weight enough to minimize the flexing?
    Do the cover supports lock in place to keep them extended?  Was looking at using gas struts like  I have supporting the window on the cap of the truck but didn’t think they would be able to hold the engine cover and weight of the wheel. 

    David B Dixon
    Port Perry ON CA
    Sabine

    #267651
    Dbanta
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    @dbanta

    No stress cracks. The side supports distribute the weight. The tire will also lay on the fiberglass. You can also add a couple of rubber spacers under the tire to stop the vibration. Yes, the supports lock into place when it is open and you raise the hood to release them. I am not sure that gas supports will take the weight of the tire.

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    #267652
    Dbanta
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    @dbanta

    This is similar to what I am using. I did a quick search on e-bay but I get a lot of gas hood supports.

    PMOSSBERG2016-03-31 17:31:19

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