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  • #234024
    john barry
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    @jebarry

    Looking for a MG TD type banjo steering wheel..ie flat 14″ for a V W jebarry2012-03-04 20:35:07

    #249625
    edward ericson
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    @edsnova

    Do a search, my brother. We just were talking about this under “Spanning.” Cip1 has the Flat Four wheel for $310.
    It’s a 16-inch diameter and, I believe, it will bolt to an older Grant
    hub adaptor, saving you from spending $90 more on their hub kit. You’ll
    still need a horn button though, and Flat Four wants another $90 for any
    of theirs. I’d say it’s a DIY item: get a bit of aluminum plate and
    bolt a bit from an old style Honeywell thermostat to it–looks like a TD steering
    center “dome.” Glue an MG logo in the center and yer good to go. Note the resemblance.

    Another option is to pick up a TD wheel and make it fit. I believe that would be doable. But I have no idea how, exactly.

    #249626
    john barry
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    @jebarry

    Thx Ed….

    #249627
    ray10
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    @ray10

    john here are a few others

    TDREPLICA Map

    http://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?webmap=7f9174ad614e43b680deba085b0abf48

    #249628
    john barry
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    @jebarry

    Ray thxs. Will check them out

    #249629
    Dan Ogle
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    @tex

    If all else fails you might check with this company,and see what they can do.

     I would think they could cut one down to what you wanted.

    Tex2012-03-04 23:07:15

    #249630
    john barry
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    @jebarry

    Tex..good link  thxz so much ..

    #249631
    Paul Mossberg
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    @pmossberg

    Pricey, but here is Grant model 1057, a 14 3/4 inch, banjo.

     

    The page says four inch dish. But I am not sure about that. A page from GrantProducts.com from years ago says it is a four inch dish WITH the spacer between whell and column. And the photo looks “flat”. And I recall a conversation with a Grant customer service person years ago. And he said it was flat.

     

    Grant does have adaptors for VW steering columns.

     

     

     

    I emailed Grant customer service to ask about the wheel specs and will update this post when they reply.

     

    Paul Mossberg
    Former Owner of a 1981 Classic Roadsters Ltd. Duchess (VW)
    2005 Intermeccanica Roadster

    If you own a TDr and are not in the Registry, please go to https://tdreplica.com/forums/topic/mg-td-replica-registry/ and register (you need to copy and paste the link)

    #249632
    john barry
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    @jebarry

    Thx paul i just love the retro look of the  MG banjo wheel.. I have seen two MG banjo wheels on Ebay ..

    DO yo know how difficult or pricey  to convert to the VW column?

    Also do you know what size front shocks you have on Duchess? I think we have the same style   ie  45 degrees

    thx zz so much

     

     
    #249633
    Paul Mossberg
    Keymaster

    @pmossberg

    Ed’s the source for adapting the MG wheel.

     

    Stock VW shocks. Nothing fancy, no gas shocks.

     

    There have been many discussions here about VW suspensions.

    The accepted best-practice is stock shocks.

    Paul Mossberg
    Former Owner of a 1981 Classic Roadsters Ltd. Duchess (VW)
    2005 Intermeccanica Roadster

    If you own a TDr and are not in the Registry, please go to https://tdreplica.com/forums/topic/mg-td-replica-registry/ and register (you need to copy and paste the link)

    #249634
    john barry
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    @jebarry

    Paul my london roadster doesn’t have. A stock V W. Front end I thought I noticed that yours were at a 45 degree set up .

    #249635
    Paul Mossberg
    Keymaster

    @pmossberg

    Sorry John. No, I have a stock VW front end.

    Paul Mossberg
    Former Owner of a 1981 Classic Roadsters Ltd. Duchess (VW)
    2005 Intermeccanica Roadster

    If you own a TDr and are not in the Registry, please go to https://tdreplica.com/forums/topic/mg-td-replica-registry/ and register (you need to copy and paste the link)

    #249636
    Paul Mossberg
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    @pmossberg

    I heard back from Grant.

     

    The Grant model 1057 has a 14/3/4 inch diameter and a 3 1/2 inch dish.

     

    Censored , I thought it was flat.

     

    And in reponse to a follow-up, they do not have anything similar with zero or minimal dish.

     

    Double Censored .

    PMOSSBERG2012-03-05 15:15:39

    Paul Mossberg
    Former Owner of a 1981 Classic Roadsters Ltd. Duchess (VW)
    2005 Intermeccanica Roadster

    If you own a TDr and are not in the Registry, please go to https://tdreplica.com/forums/topic/mg-td-replica-registry/ and register (you need to copy and paste the link)

    #249637
    john barry
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    @jebarry

    Paul. Thxz for the help/info..

    #249638
    edward ericson
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    @edsnova

    MG TD steering wheels have a keyed fitting for the shaft. VW Bugs have splined shafts. Early and late differ, but I’m not sure how.

    So getting a TD wheel on a Bug steering shaft means finding a way to mate the keyed fitting to the splined shaft. Depending on the diameters, it might be as simple as cutting the bug shaft for a tap-in key and grinding on a couple fender washers to hold it under the nut. But it’s more likely to be a nightmare involving lathes, precision welding, and two or three ruined parts.

    BTW, all this assumes you’d get rid of the whole fatass ignition switch/turn signal/highbeam switch mechanism which clamshells around your VW steering shaft, relocate those functions elsewhere, and get a new u-bolt system to hang the steering shaft from something strong under your dashboard.

    Anyone else still game? 🙂

    #249639
    john barry
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    @jebarry

    Lol. Thanks Ed thats all I needed to know. I. Do appreciate your knowledge and help
    All that stuff is waaaay beyond me jebarry2012-03-05 21:15:59

    #249640
    Royal
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    @royal

    “the whole fatass ignition switch/turn signal/highbeam switch mechanism which clamshells around your VW steering shaft” – you really do have a way with words Ed.  Ever think about writing? 

    #249641
    john barry
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    @jebarry

    Ed doesn’t mince words 😉

    #249642
    edward ericson
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    @edsnova

    1521 posts and counting. 

    #249643
    john barry
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    @jebarry

    Ed will the Woodlands banjo wheel adapt easily to my V W Steering column?

    #249644
    edward ericson
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    @edsnova

    What’s the Woodlands?

    #249645
    john barry
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    @jebarry

    OOPs  sorry Ed meant Brooklands Steering Wheels

     from Moss  Motors

    Also saw a Flat 4 Banjo steering wheel for  VW’s..

    Any comments on this  wheel? pros cons?

    PMOSSBERG2012-03-06 11:56:34

    #249646
    Paul Mossberg
    Keymaster

    @pmossberg

    Fixed the link John.

     

    That is the wheel you see in a lot of Speedsters. Would look pretty close to a TD wheel.

     

    My only caution, check your clearances. And I don’t mean the wheel to the dash. I mean the wheel to the driver’s lap! Ermm

     

    An inch or two diameter increase in the wheel might not sound like much. But it could make things pretty tight in there! I’m just sayin’….

    Paul Mossberg
    Former Owner of a 1981 Classic Roadsters Ltd. Duchess (VW)
    2005 Intermeccanica Roadster

    If you own a TDr and are not in the Registry, please go to https://tdreplica.com/forums/topic/mg-td-replica-registry/ and register (you need to copy and paste the link)

    #249647
    john barry
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    @jebarry

    Paul

     Thank you  for the help..

    I checked the clearance on my London Roadster..I beleive our seats or mine(bench) is a bit higher than some MG TD and replicas.

    the flat dish grant wheel i have now is @14 inches. which makes the Flat 4 Banjo Steering Wheel (IVORY) 15 1/2″    doable (i think) not too sure how far the hub and adapter extends out on the Flat 4 .

     I will make a template and see how the clearance works..

    I saw Ed’s steering wheel and is  very Nish…but  pricieeee

     

    Again thanks

    jebarry2012-03-06 12:14:05

    #249648
    edward ericson
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    @edsnova

    John, as I said, I like the Flat 4 a lot. If I were going to try it, I’d buy just the wheel and see if it will bolt to your existing Grant adaptor hub. I believe it will. The $90 part Flat 4 sells as an adaptor is meant to raise the wheel off the dash (like a dished wheel) so it will clear the turn signal switch. Don’t buy it. (Not yet, at least). We TD guys don’t want to do that; we already modded our turn switch & want the steering wheel to be as close as possible to the dash.

    I’d skip their $90 horn buttons too, pretty as they are. Try to make something that looks more TD-ish out of your existing Grant button & maybe some parts you have around the house. I ended up rigging my horn to a button on the dash, as the originals had.

    Like Paul said, the big wheel adds up–or subtracts up, I should say–in terms of lap room. My Bluemels Brooklands copy is an inch-plus bigger than the Flat 4. It will bolt up to the existing Grant hub, however. Mine just needed to be taken apart so I could drill out the center hole in the top plate. 10 minute job.

    Good luck.

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