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I think this is a relisting on eBay, but apparently the used car dealer took this one in on trade, titled as a 29 Mercedes. It is clearly a TDr. So, not only does the title/registration not match the VW donor running gear, it doesn’t match the replica body that’s sitting on it…
KentT 2014-01-18 16:16:22 Early FF TDr on 69 VW pan
Slowly coming back from the ashes...Talk about a nightmare if someone buys that out of state. As much trouble as I have heard about getting our cars titled, I can’t imagine trying to get one corrected. Will drive the buyer nuts.
I don’t think that the title screw-up will be any problem assuming the numbers match. Just leave everything as is. Only a problem if he tries to change/correct it.
Royal2014-01-18 17:20:26Or when he gets pulled over by an inquisitive, somewhat knowledgeable cop…
Or when he tries to sell it, and explain it like this seller is trying…Or when he tries to insure it…Or ….I can see all types of possible headaches. I’ll stick to mine being registered/titled with the original VW VIN number — that’s fairly easily explained, in comparison.KentT2014-01-18 17:27:00
Early FF TDr on 69 VW pan
Slowly coming back from the ashes...I think all the DMV cares about is the VIN NO. So if the title says its a 29 Benz and the Vin does and no one ever tries to change it Some day it will be buried as Benz . Even if you are pulled over. You have done nothing wrong greg press2014-01-18 17:31:23
I agree with Kent, I see lots of possible problems down the road. Personally I wouldn’t touch it till the dealer got it corrected.
If the price was right, and I think it’s high, the fact that it’s registered and titled as a 29 Mercedes wouldn’t slow me down a bit.
When I bought my TDr (in Va) it was titled as a 1983 MGTD, and of course there is no such thing. This became a problem for me because MG did not make a car in 1983 so the computer wouldn’t accept the results when I had it inspected. The computer knew that there was no such thing as a 1983 MG.Maybe things are easier in NC than in Tenn or Ohio. DMV wouldn’t even want to look at it and what would a state cop do if all the numbers matched? Give you a ticket because it “doesn’t look like a Mercedes”?I’ve found that rules vary significantly from state to state, but have no previous experience with kit cars…
In every state that I’ve had to deal with title issues — it was the VIN number on the VW pan that the determining factor, whether I was running a ’53 Beetle body on a 1970 Beetle pan, or what… it would still be considered a 1970 Beetle.I’ve known several instances of people selling a just a title and a cut-out VIN plate from the center tunnel, because it greatly simplified the whole registration process.Otherwise, it had to be titled as a “Homebuilt” and subject to an initial inspection….Computers don’t like “home-made” VIN numbers either…Early FF TDr on 69 VW pan
Slowly coming back from the ashes...I agree with Roy, AND KentT
For me, the titling process (NC) was easy on my BCW (Emma)– but not so easy on the FFII (Abby).The BCW was titled in Ohio where they used the VW chassis VIN stamped in the top of the tunnel between the seats. But the title said it was a 1980 car. To get it right, a DMV-assigned state trooper had to drive out to my house and verify the number stamped on the car against the Ohio title, and then the state issued me a new “VIN” number on a tag that the trooper attached to the tunnel in a hidden location (a second trip out to my house to do this). Then a title with the “new VIN” number was issued.As to the FFII I purchased from a seller in MA, the number on the title from MA did not match any number that we could find on the car. So as of now, I have to continue looking to see if I can find the number that is on the MA title hidden somewhere on the car, or I’ll have to get a bond issued (for around $150) that will confer the state in case the car was stolen.So, the ease of titling one of these kit cars depends on how the initial kit builder had the car titled…in my case, one was pretty easy, and I’m still working on the other.In NC, at least, If there is a number on the title that exists stamped on the kit car where a trooper can verify it, all it takes is a little time and patience. As to this 1929 Mercedes/MGTD — if numbers on the car match the existing title — no worries!!HappyJackYou may have noticed that Happy Jack is readying himself for a presidential run in 2016. He plans to run in both the Democrat and Republican parties as their candidate with the slogan “everybody’s right about everything”. He’s a shoe-in. 😀
In Georgia, if the car is over 25 years old, you don’t need a title. My TDR is being built on a 71 VW pan so it’ll be registered as a 1971 VW. If I want the hassle of a title, then it’ll cost me an extra $90. I may do that so I can get it registered and titled as a 1971 MGTD Replica.
Allen Caron
VW based 53MGTD - "MoneyPenny"
"If one thing matters, everything matters" - from the book The Shack
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