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Well…like the topic header says, it was a frustrating day at the local title office. I had all the paperwork and they were ready to register Moneypenny as a 1971 VW Kit Car and then they said there was no need for a title for a vehicle as old as 1971. I said I understood that and explained that the reason I wanted the title was when I die, my TDr goes to my son who lives in Ohio and he will need a title to register it. We went back and forth for an hour and I finally said “Listen. I have completed all your check boxes for the title, registration and insurance. Its my car and my money. If I want a title just issue me one. I’m not worried about the costs of the registration and title.” They still just didn’t get it so I took my paperwork and money and came home. I’ll go to the main title office in the county. The annex people just don’t have a clue.
Allen Caron
VW based 53MGTD - "MoneyPenny"
"If one thing matters, everything matters" - from the book The ShackSounds like you live in ILLINOIS! 😡
One day you talk to one state employee in one office, only to be told by someone in another office a different story. 🙄
If I have any questions, I Google it and look it up on the official state webpage. 💡
Hope you get everything straightened out.
GOOD LUCK! 😮
Amor Conquista Todo
You are right, it is all in who you talk to — also maybe it’s how you deal with them and whether you hit them when they’re busy and having a bad day, or in a good day and not doing much. I know that Doug of Doug’s Garage had a dickens of a time with Nevada DMV registering his TDR. Took him months. My own experience was very easy, but that’s partly because we started at 8:00 on a Wednesday and encountered people who thought my car was really neat. Everyone in MY experience with DMV was very helpful.
It also helped that my own car already had a Utah title, although it wasn’t clear what exactly it was a title to — it was written up as a 1999 “SPCN”, Model “MG,” body style “Convertible.” Well that could mean just about anything. Also, my VIN plate that was just a little piece of aluminum with the numbers scratched into it had been removed during the painting process. Fortunately the body shop had saved it and put it in a Ziplock, but it looked bad. I flattened it back out with a roller and pop-riveted and contact cemented it to the body near the engine so it looked pretty authentic. Nobody questioned it. The guy from DMV who verified my title didn’t give it a second look, my title verification took five minutes, and then he told me he’d dealt with lots of this kind of car, and what I needed was to get it registered as a replica. Well, okay by me. So I let him educate me and I did as he said. He sent me (and also called ahead for me) to another station so I could get a smog exemption certificate as a “replica.” Those people took about five minutes more to issue the certificate. Now armed with a title, VIN verification, and smog exemption certificate, a final trip to DMV took 30 minutes to wait, 15 minutes at the counter, and the person assisting me was even friendly and helpful (all of this is unheard of here, but I swear it’s true).
When I received the paperwork back from the State, I found that I now own a 1999 “ASVE”, Model “52MG” with body style “TRD,” whatever that means. It’s just a regular old Nevada license plate, too. Kind of funny, though — they told me I couldn’t get a “classic vehicle” plate for my car since it was assembled (?) or titled (?) for the first time in 1999. This, even though I have a receipt for the kit dated 1983 and even though I’ve seen another TDR here in Nevada that does have the “classic vehicle” plates. Functionally, there is no difference — my car is titled and registered as a “replica” and that gets me the smog exemption, the cheap registration, and the same mileage limitations. What is really important is that I have a title that matches my VIN and a valid license plate and registration. Plus, my Nevada title at least identifies the car as a “52MG.”
This morning I meandered to the county DMV. I was a little leery since my last visit to the local DMV but these folks were in a totally different league. I brought all the GA required paperwork to title a kit car and had the inspection sheet signed off by the county sheriff’s office and the insurance paperwork. Told them I wanted to title the vehicle even though its not required in GA of a vehicle that old. They asked for the paperwork, looked it over and started tapping the keyboard to give me the title and registration AND the penalty. What? Penalty! It turns out there is a time limit to get the vehicle registered when you build a kit car and I exceeded that by a little more than a year. Cost me $90 but that was fine. (pun intended). Vehicle is now titled as a 1971 VW kit car but the plate is a cardboard temp plate because I wanted a special plate that reads “53 MGTD”. Total time at their office…22 minutes. I am now one happy retiree! 😀
Allen Caron
VW based 53MGTD - "MoneyPenny"
"If one thing matters, everything matters" - from the book The ShackGood news Allen.
Can’t wait for you to run into an original 53 TD owner who tries to steal your plate! 😉
Paul Mossberg
Former Owner of a 1981 Classic Roadsters Ltd. Duchess (VW)
2005 Intermeccanica RoadsterIf you own a TDr and are not in the Registry, please go to https://tdreplica.com/forums/topic/mg-td-replica-registry/ and register (you need to copy and paste the link)
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