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  • #234531
    Royal
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    @royal

    I have a line on some Western Wheels.  There are 5 of them, four still in the original boxes.  Chrome wheels with wire wheel look baskets and knockoffs.   The owner says that they are for a VW, 4 bolt.  It is my understanding that Western Wheel bought Kelsey Hayes and these are really Kelsey Hayes wheel KH 06 4625.  I have not been able to find out what they are on the internet.  Can any of you help?   

    #254557
    edward ericson
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    @edsnova

    Aren’t you already sportin’ real wires, Roy? Why you want baskets?

    #254558
    Royal
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    @royal

    Ed, I’m good.  I’m very happy.  Maybe one of you guys might want them.  They are new very old stock.  

    #254559
    sreynolds
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    @sreynolds

    Roy, I might be interested in them if you can find out more about them. Is there a pic?

     

    Sam
    #254560
    john barry
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    @jebarry

    Can you post a link Thanks

    #254561
    Royal
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    @royal

    No pics, no link.  I found these in a guy’s garage.  I’m sure that he will sell them.  I’m trying to figure out what they are so we can verify size, bolt pattern, setback offset etc.etc. 

    #254562
    edward ericson
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    @edsnova

    Ah, very cool. Why not have him post a photo and specs here? Width, offset, diameter and lug spread. We’re wanting 4 x 130mm

    BTW, I found reference to KH wire baskets from someone’s Fiberfab Gazelle. They were not this part number:

    14 X 6 JJTB, 4 lug, Stock Number KH4287, with several centers (see pictures),

    I believed they will fit a 1968 VW and up,

    >

    > I purchase them for my 1928 Gazelle but due to medical issues I never use

    them, so I will offer then here first before I list on EBay.

    #254563
    Royal
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    @royal

    This post is to close the loop.  The 5 NOS KH wheels are most definitely NOT 4 x 130mm VW wheels as thought and hoped.  I dug one out and brought it home, measured and took it back they were 15″ x 6.  4 bolt.  Here is the meat of the email that I sent to the owner.

    I believe that the Western Wheels that you have are really Kelsey-Hayes
    wheels. Apparently Western bought the KH wheel company (thus the prefix on the
    wheel model numbers: KH 06-4625)(But there are numbers KH 3185 and 7U5 stamped
    into the metal of the wheel). They are 6" x 15" with about a 8-10mm positive
    offset.
     They will NOT fit a Volkswagen (which requires 4 x 130mm bolt pattern).

    The mounting holes are slightly elongated and therefore these wheels may
    bolt up nicely to a few different 4 bolt patterns depending on the diameter of
    the lug bolts. Here is my estimation of what they will or might fit based upon
    bolt pattern ONLY. (These wheels may interfere with the frame/bodywork due to
    incompatible wheel offset even thought the wheel bolt pattern is the same and
    would bolt on.):

    4 Lug


    4 X 4 1/4" Make Model Years (POSSIBLE)

    Alfa Romeo All (except Alfetta)
    Audi Quattro 1984-'85
    Ford Fairmont 1978-'86
    Ford Mustang (except SVO) 1974-'86
    Ford Thunderbird 1980-'86
    Ford Pinto 1971-'80
    Ford Fiesta 1978-'85
    Ford Escort, EXP 1980-'91
    Ford Taurus, Tempo thru 1989
    Ford England Merkur 1985-86
    Ford England Cortina All
    Ford Germany German-built Capri I, II, III 1969-8?
    Mercury Zephyr, Z-7 1978-'86
    Mercury Cougar, XR7 1979-'88
    Mercury Merkur XR4Ti 1980-'86
    Mercury Lynx, LN-7 1980-'86
    Mercury Topaz 1984-'86
    Mercury Capri & Capri II 1971-'88
    Porsche 924 1977-'84
    Sunbeam Tiger, Alpine, Arrow 1965-'70

    4 X 110 mm (4.330") Make Model Years (PROBABLE)

    Mazda RX2, RX3, RX4, GLC, RX7 1971-'82
    Mazda 626, Pickup 1971-'82
    Mazda RX-7 (except GSLE) 1984-'85

    4 X 4 1/2" Make Model Years (WILL FIT)

    Acura Legend 1986-'89
    Buick Special 1961-'63
    Chevrolet Corvair, Chevy II, Nova 1960-'64
    Chevy/Geo Sprint 1985-'87
    Datsun B-210, 510, 610, 710,200SX, 1968-'86
    Dodge Colt 1984-'85
    Nissan 310, GX, Stanza, Sentra, Maxima, 1968-'86
    Nissan 810, Pulsar, 240Z, 260Z, 280Z 1968-'86
    Nissan 300 ZX (except turbo) 1968-'86
    Dodge Challenger 1978-'83
    Ford Falcon 6-cylinder 1968-'70
    Ford Mustang 6-cylinder 1965-'73
    Ford Granada, Maverick 1981-'83
    Mazda 626 1983-'87
    Mazda RX-7 GSLE 1984-'85
    Mazda RX-7 1986
    MG MGA, MGB, MGC All
    Oldsmobile F-85 1961-'63
    Plymouth Sapporo, Arrow 1979-'88
    SAAB 900 thru 1987
    Toyota Celica, Supra 1968-'85
    Toyota Corona 1971-'81
    Toyota Van Wagon 1984-'86
    Triumph TR series

    4 X 120mm (4.724") Make Model Years (PROBABLE)

    Honda
    Mazda
    Roy	
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