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  • #233410
    Dennis Brock
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    @dbrock


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    #244122
    edward ericson
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    @edsnova

    What th..! That blue . . . engine?

    Looks like a garage full of MGs, this one with a proper absurdly-foldable MG style bonnet. But for the life of me I can’t make out what that is supposed to be under it.

    I see the Pinto shifter. Is the engine maybe a V-6?

    #244123
    Dennis Brock
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    @dbrock

    Actually, it’s a 2.0 liter German Ford enine from a 71 Pinto.  This car is an enigma.  No one seems to know who built it.  Brad, from the MG Magic co. (old owner), says that he hasn’t seen one like it and feels that it might be a prototype.  That is the main reason that I posted these pics, to get any help possible in identifying it.  These are early pic showing it pretty much as I got it.  Many changes since then.  I plan on having it at Carlysle (sp?).  My son helped me get these pics on our site as I haven’t been able to navigate the process!

    #244124
    Paul Mossberg
    Keymaster

    @pmossberg

    That’s going to be a nice looking car when you are done dbrock.

    I’m not sure what it is. But it looks VERY authentic, the proper folding hood, folding windshield frame. Nice!

    The fittings at the top of the windshield frame have me thinking this car uses an original style roof. Does it?

    And a hint for your son, add a couple line breaks between the pictures, so the pictures stack instead of run way off the right side of the screen. . I hope you don’t mind, but I did that last night.

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    Paul Mossberg
    Former Owner of a 1981 Classic Roadsters Ltd. Duchess (VW)
    2005 Intermeccanica Roadster

    If you own a TDr and are not in the Registry, please go to https://tdreplica.com/forums/topic/mg-td-replica-registry/ and register (you need to copy and paste the link)

    #244125
    Dennis Brock
    Participant

    @dbrock

    The roof uses a real TD 3 bow (53) top.  I’m assuming that it is also a real MG top.  My friend has three TDs and as soon as I get a nice day I’m going over to do some measuring to verify that.  I think that you will be pleasantly surprised when you see the finished product. (if they ever get finished!)  Now has a new dash, console as well as some covers that my wife sewed.  Looking very forward to the show.

    #244126
    Larry Murphy
    Participant

    @larry-murphy

     That’s one NICE TD replica!!!! And it’s just as rare too.Can’t wait to see it when finished. I really like the accessability to the engine that the four piece folding hood allows.It’s also the first replica with a TD like firewall that I have seen.You’ve got a special one for sure.

     Reminds me of my garage ,a red one parked beside a yellow one.Wink

    #244127
    Dan Rosa
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    @dan-r

    Will you do the top mount wipers ?? that is the one thing I would like to do to mine ,,, someday  Dan

    #244128
    Dennis Brock
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    @dbrock

    I think that is what I will do if I do anything.  The prices are prohibitive!  I think Moss motors wants $370 for the motor alone and that doesn’t count what the arms, linkage and blades cost, and you are still left with disssasembling the windshield frame to run wiring.  I belong to a British Sports Car Club, and the TC and TD owners say their wipers are practically useless in the rain.  That being said, I still would like to do it!  For the time being, I’ll probably use the Rainex wipers unless a deal falls into my hands.

    #244129
    edward ericson
    Participant

    @edsnova

    Re wiper motors: Check this out:

    This one is the right shape. $70. 110-degree sweep. Paint it crinkle black and you’re 99 percent home.

    This one is like half that.

    There’s a black crinkle finish one somewhere too. waterproof, brass and stainless, 110 degree sweep. $70-80. Not a “genuine Lucas” Chinese reproduction (they’re actually under $300 at Moss, on sale), but pretty close and not unheard-of on “driver” TDs.

    The real deal wipers, blades, cross bar and stuff are not that expensive, even at Moss (don’t know where else to get them). I think you could rig this up under $200. Might as well, too since your cowl lacks the “bumps” for wiper arm pivots.

    That car is gonna be pukkah!

    #244130
    mike
    Participant

    @mikeeva

    i saw one on ebay, its item #300534757808 $38 with arm and wiper blade. would do one side but i would think wipers are like a spare tire. only for emergency on kit cars, rainx sounds better all the time

    #244131
    edward ericson
    Participant

    @edsnova

    dbrock, you might want to post your car’s pictures at Forgotten Fiberglass, or at least let that guy know about it.

    http://www.forgottenfiberglass.com/

    You might not rate (might not be old enough) but who knows?

    #244132
    Dennis Brock
    Participant

    @dbrock

    I still haven’t made up my mind for sure.  The problem with most of the boat wiper motors is that the shafts are larger diameter than the real thing.  You have only about 3/16 of metal to drill through without touching the glass on this frame.  If you touch the glass you get to buy a new windshield.  I think that you would want to totally dissasemble the windshield frame, do your drilling and wiring and reassemble.  Since I’ve just gotten it drivable, and don’t drive in bad weather, I think I will at least wait until next fall or winter.

    #244133
    Dennis Brock
    Participant

    @dbrock

    I.D. solved!  This car was built by a group of Shriners, 20 in all who decided to build their own parade cars.  One of them was knowlegable about mold making.  The others had various other skills.  The person that I contacted did most of the welding.  Over a 5-6 year history there were 10 cars completed, about 1/2 were VW based and the others were Pinto based.  One of the group owned a basket case MGTD and the molds were made from the body (apparently the only good part of the car).  Only one original owner remains, and he has brain cancer.  According to the owners wife, the molds still exist and belong to the son in law of one of the 20.

    #244134
    Dennis Brock
    Participant

    @dbrock

    Forgot to add:  the cars were built in Louisville Ky. and southern Indiana, specifically New Albany.

    #244135
    edward ericson
    Participant

    @edsnova

    wow! Those guys kicked ass!

    #244136
    Larry Murphy
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    @larry-murphy

     debrock, You’ve got a very special piece of history. I knew it was rare and special when you first posted the pictures ,but it’s even more special than I could have imagined. Looking forward to seeing it when you get it all done.

    #244137
    Paul Mossberg
    Keymaster

    @pmossberg

    Great story dbrock!

    Would be awesome if you could hook up with the one remaining owner. Depending on his condition, I bet that would really make his day to know at least one of their cars is still around and in such good hands!

    Knowing my Shrine Mason friends, I bet there were some refreshments involved in the build of these cars! amazing that they are of such high quality!

    Paul Mossberg
    Former Owner of a 1981 Classic Roadsters Ltd. Duchess (VW)
    2005 Intermeccanica Roadster

    If you own a TDr and are not in the Registry, please go to https://tdreplica.com/forums/topic/mg-td-replica-registry/ and register (you need to copy and paste the link)

    #244138
    Dennis Brock
    Participant

    @dbrock

    I posted a few new pics of a more finished car, the one I hoped to bring to Carlisle.  Next year for sure!

    #244139
    Paul Mossberg
    Keymaster

    @pmossberg

    Your car is spectacular dbrock!

    Paul Mossberg
    Former Owner of a 1981 Classic Roadsters Ltd. Duchess (VW)
    2005 Intermeccanica Roadster

    If you own a TDr and are not in the Registry, please go to https://tdreplica.com/forums/topic/mg-td-replica-registry/ and register (you need to copy and paste the link)

    #244140
    edward ericson
    Participant

    @edsnova

    That is looking brilliant, d.

    An update on the wiper thing: I measured and marked the top of my windshield frame for the wiper and idler bearing holes and took my car to a glass and top shop. “I’m not touching that frame,” the guy said.

    Basically, he said what you said–take it apart, take the glass out, drill the frame and then cut the glass as needed to fit.

    (So I asked him, ‘if I came here with a cracked window you’d take it apart then, right?’ No good answer came back. He said I should take the frame to a body shop and let them take it apart if I don’t want to.)

    Anyway, re the shafts. The idler bearing is about 7/32 where it goes through the frame; the boat shaft is bigger, about 3/8, but will fit the TD wiper blades if you drill out the collet in the wiper. I’m probably going to give it a shot after Carlisle.

    #244141
    Dennis Brock
    Participant

    @dbrock

    Keep me informed, I’d still like to do it, but maybe a winter project?  My car is basically a copy of the 53, so the wiper motor would be in the center, not on the right.  I suppose that Moss is still the choice for the linkages etc.

    #244142
    Dennis Brock
    Participant

    @dbrock

    By the way everyone, my name is Dennis or Denny-Brock

    #244143
    edward ericson
    Participant

    @edsnova

    Will do, Dennis. 

    #244144
    Peter C. King
    Participant

    @bdriver

     

    If it were my windshield I’d install the cowl wipers and claim that they came from a 55 TF.

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