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Rick,
Did you pick up that re-engined TD? I notice a cream and brown one in the distance. Whever did your car originally took the extra steps to incorporate as much original stuff as possible – including the wheel. Have you tried wrapping it with leather? That might thicken it up a bit for you, but if you need more room, a smaller wheel (I think mine is 13.5 inches) is nice.TomTom Vilardi
BCW Model 52
South Orange NJYes, I have the 1952 MGTD with Volvo engine. I am working on getting it road ready. Lots of small things – like no brakes. I am still not completely sure which car I will keep. Having the original, I am more aware of the improvements that the replica has – dual master cylinder, doors that actually close and stay closed. But it is cool to have a 64 year old car that runs. Parts seem to be more available for the original than the replica. Of course the replica can be modified in any manner and no one cares.
1986 British Coach Works Type 52 (Sammy)
Chevy 2.8 V6, 5 speedI think the P-1800-engined TD is kind of the best of both worlds. Authentic steel over ash body and 100 horsepower, but with proper dual-SU carburation.
Of course, I don’t have to maintain it….Sweet ride. Love the wheels.I remember you were considering getting it. There is a Triumph powered tin-TD nearby (northern NJ) for $14,900 and another one (with original motor) in Western CT for $14,500. Both seemed to be well priced.
I finally had an opportunity to compare the BCW-TD to a tin-TD and the lack of even just a few scant inches (maybe 2) made the tin-version seem claustrophobic (of course the hood (top) was up too), but the ability ot have both the old and new is truly appealing and I commend you for it!What (if any) are the significant differences btw. the two in your own case?TomTom Vilardi
BCW Model 52
South Orange NJI’ll start a separate topic on the differences. Of course I am fairly new to the original and replica hobby, but it will be fun to hear which car others think I should keep/sell.
1986 British Coach Works Type 52 (Sammy)
Chevy 2.8 V6, 5 speedTom – in a previous post, I think you said your louvers were real – was I dreaming?
1986 British Coach Works Type 52 (Sammy)
Chevy 2.8 V6, 5 speedSide louvers are open on my car, but made of fiberglass. I obtained a steel TD top pf hood to campare to the current fiberglass one and while the curveture and where the sides and top meet are exactly the same, the original maybe approximately two inches shorter. Not sure why.
The placement of the grill and everything seems to be all in proportion.I imagine you’ll find out the same thing too when comparing the “BCW” and “Metal” hoods.Tom Vilardi
BCW Model 52
South Orange NJLike most of the TDrs, the BCW is, I think, 3 inches longer overall than the TD. I believe the Fusseneggers stretched the hood a little in order to get a better fit of the body over the VW donor: it lets the BCW’s full length grill sit in front of the front axle beam and allows the rear torsion bar to tuck behind the front of the rear fenders. (Of course the rear fuel tank area is still a bit long as well–but not so much as Fiberfabs and some other brands). I believe the MiGi is closest to the correct overall length but you can see it in the shortened grill and the little “steps” on the rear fenders to accommodate the torsion tubes.
This should be moot on front engined cars like yours but it’s not: since the Bug was far and away the most popular donor, all the TDr manufacturers apparently adapted their VW body kits for their various front-engined versions.And this is why we can’t use, for example, Moss Motors interior door cards, real TD hoods, real TD fenders, etc., without modification.Thanks Ed, Makes sense that they would not have two slightly different moulds. Rick is the only one with the old and new, so I’m looking forward to what he may uncover.
Tom Vilardi
BCW Model 52
South Orange NJRe “I believe the Fusseneggers stretched the hood a little in order to get a better fit of the body over the VW donor: it lets the BCW’s full length grill sit in front of the front axle beam and allows the rear torsion bar to tuck behind the front of the rear fenders.” Not just BCW. My FiberFab meets both criteria. I think my FF is a little different from the usual. The grill is from an original and fits in front of the torsion bar (trust me, I’ve removed and replaced it like five times now), there is no bump on the running board ahead of the rear fender, and the engine cover tilts backwards and has a real spare tire.
Paul. Where did you get your convex mirrors? The mirrors I have are flat. Thanks.
Allen Caron
VW based 53MGTD - "MoneyPenny"
"If one thing matters, everything matters" - from the book The ShackAllen,
Convex mirrors from Moss Motors, $15.99 each.Part number 165-300 (LH convex) and 165-210 (RH Convex).They are reproduction mirrors. They are exact except the mirror retaining back-plate does not have the Lucas logos. You can buy Lucas back-plates for another $15.79 each, part 165-307.PMOSSBERG2016-05-18 10:06:26
Paul Mossberg
Former Owner of a 1981 Classic Roadsters Ltd. Duchess (VW)
2005 Intermeccanica RoadsterIf you own a TDr and are not in the Registry, please go to https://tdreplica.com/forums/topic/mg-td-replica-registry/ and register (you need to copy and paste the link)
Thanks Paul. I ordered a pair this morning.
Hope you all have a great time at Carlisle. I should be in attendance next year. At least I’m planning on driving the TD from Warner Robins, GA to Carlisle. I’ll have to Bing the mileage from here to there. Don’t forget to have the folks in attendance who haven’t signed the back of the banner sign it. I’ll sign it next year.
Allen Caron
VW based 53MGTD - "MoneyPenny"
"If one thing matters, everything matters" - from the book The ShackNewkitman,
Check out Ebay too.I got a new (old/original) pair of wing (fender) mirrors and some other bits and bobs for around $20.I think the fender mirrors are almost useless and seemed to be more of an American import option for the tin-TD’s.TomTom Vilardi
BCW Model 52
South Orange NJA note on fender mirrors.
I bought the convex mirrors from Moss about a month after I got my car, 2009. They were something like $38 for both, shipped. Looks like they’re still about the same.I later got a set of long stem motorcycle mirrors and bolted them to the windshield mounts. They work too.But I haven’t had them on the car for quite some time.The fender mirrors work fine when adjusted correctly. Get them so the car in your rear view enters the side view only when it leaves the rear view. You can do this on both sides (passenger side is harder) and then as long as you remember to check them you’ll not have a blind spot.At the risk of sounding dumb, what ARE ‘windwings’? Are they the fenders?
I know the Brits use different terms than Americans; Petrol, boots, bonnets and hoods.:?
Just curious…Amor Conquista Todo
Wind Wings are the adjustable plexiglass extensions for the sides of the windshield that can be positioned to divert the wind away from your face.
Respectfully disagreeing with an expert, imho, the fender mirrors can only work if the driver is not vertically challenged. In my case I can’t see more than the top half of the mirror on either side no matter how I adjust it. But I’m not willing to raise my seat height because of limited roof clearance when the top is up.
I have installed additional mirrors, including the Cobra-style mirror from Finish Line. 😀
Kall2016-05-24 01:31:30Got the convex fender mirrors from Moss Motors today. Two mirrors each in their own box with some assembly required…Oh me! Hope I don’t end with a little bag of important looking stuff left over. I am old ya know. 😆
newkitman2016-05-26 11:24:52Allen Caron
VW based 53MGTD - "MoneyPenny"
"If one thing matters, everything matters" - from the book The ShackYou can handle this Allen!
Paul Mossberg
Former Owner of a 1981 Classic Roadsters Ltd. Duchess (VW)
2005 Intermeccanica RoadsterIf you own a TDr and are not in the Registry, please go to https://tdreplica.com/forums/topic/mg-td-replica-registry/ and register (you need to copy and paste the link)
Re: My previous post about fender mirrors- upon further review I have noticed that not all of the fender mirrors I see in pictures of TDrs are equal. Some have a longer stem (no giggling please) which means that the mirror is higher and in my case might actually be visible from the driver’s position. I don’t know if different kit makers used different mirrors but if you can’t see your mirrors over the hood that might be the reason.
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