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  • #235846
    russ
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    @irzetor

    Just bought a london roadster with vw power but There suspension. This has leaf springs not coil overs. Solid car but front and rear is saging a bit. Does anyone know what springs they used? Think fronts would convert to coil overs. But i would need to find what coil springs to use.

    #265454
    edward ericson
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    @edsnova

    Leaf springs in front? Please to post a photo of that!

    #265455
    russ
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    @irzetor

    I will get a picture. Its a single leaf that runs from the bottom of one lower suspension arm to the other.

    #265456
    billnparts
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    @billnparts

    I’ve never seen a transverse leaf setup on any of these cars but I recall kits to make this modification being available eons ago. I don’t recall the applications other than the big GM F-bodies (Camaro/Firebird) of the late ’70’s.

    Bill Ascheman
    Fiberfab Ford
    Modified 5.0, 5sp., 4:11
    Autocross & Hillclimb
    "Drive Happy"

    #265457
    Royal
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    @royal

    Wow! That would be rare. Please post pictures. I don’t remember transverse leaf front end except on a Model T, but I was really only interested in the less expensive imported European cars.   

    #265458
    greg press
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    @greg-press

    I’m a London Roadster owner. Mine is a coil over shock all 4 wheels . To me this sounds like a after market . Isn’t this something that T- bucket builders do. Aren’t the front coil over shocks hard to replace in a LR .

    #265459
    edward ericson
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    @edsnova

    Did not the TC have a leaf spring front suspension? Ah yas…but two sets of leaves, not one…

    #265460
    russ
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    @irzetor


    This is the best i could do. Multi leaf in back, half of a spring set. Single in front.

    #265461
    russ
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    @irzetor

    #265462
    john barry
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    @jebarry

    I am pretty sure my LR has multi leaf in back   too

    with the tubular chassis .. with coil overs ..
    #265463
    russ
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    @irzetor

    I need to find some rubber spacers for the rear springs. I think they would be ok. But the front end need coil overs. Looks like 13″ eye to eye. But no idea of spring rate? Has anyone replaced the coil overs on one?

    #265464
    billnparts
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    @billnparts

    I, for one, would like to see photos of how this is assembled. Above photos don’t show anything.

    Bill Ascheman
    Fiberfab Ford
    Modified 5.0, 5sp., 4:11
    Autocross & Hillclimb
    "Drive Happy"

    #265465
    KentT
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    @kentt

    Hard to tell from the pictures, but if it is a VW swing-axle (1967 > ) rear suspension, that could be an aftermarket camber compensator.

    Early FF TDr on 69 VW pan
    Slowly coming back from the ashes...

    #265466
    john barry
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    @jebarry

    if he has the custom LR chassis I doubt many   have seen this  set up .

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    jebarry2015-09-18 20:23:44

    #265467
    russ
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    @irzetor

    Yes its london roadsters own square tube chassis. 1984 looks like i will figure out some front coil overs to use. What you see is the spring setting inside the bottom of the lower arm. A bolt goes through the lower arm and spring eye near the ball joint. Has anyone replaced there coil overs on a LR?

    #265468
    john barry
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    @jebarry

    I have the same LR    and  no advice on coil overs etc  here   – no shop wants to tackle the job and I haven’t had any feed back here about the coil over stock numbers that  would be correct ..All these guys here VW pans ..

    My ’86 LR  with 16 k miles  bottomed out in the  front  on  bumpy  roads   ..I took out one of the  front weights which helped a lot .  Also front tire pressure 20lbs  22lbs  for the rear ..and i am sure there will be a discussion there .. 
    Do you have the owners manual ?
    I will be happy to fwd but  don’t expect much in it 



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    #265469
    edward ericson
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    @edsnova

    OK I am not an expert but here is my attempt to be helpful.

    I believe auto coil springs are sold by diameter, length and spring rate in pounds. So if you pull a spring from your car and measure it, you will have the first two measures. To figure the needed spring rate you will need to weigh the front of the car, divide it in half, and then find the formula for calculating the spring rate needed to support that weight. I think BillinParts has shared that equation here previously. But just–again, in a non-expert way–to try to be helpful, I refer you to this, which i found by Googling “calculate spring rate for a car.”
    This seems like a doable chore if you take it step by step. 
    Good luck to you both.
    #265470
    john barry
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    @jebarry

    Thxz  EdThumbs Up

    #265471
    russ
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    @irzetor

    I just wanted to check and see if anyone on here ran into this. First step should be to get weight front and rear. They look to be 13in eye to eye. I am going to pull them to be sure. Looks like a lot of Harleys used that length. Some were air ride some were not. I am going to look for some take offs and try some.

    #265472
    john barry
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    @jebarry

    Thumbs Up  

    #265473
    Royal
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    @royal

    Do a forum search for “How much does my TDr weigh”

    #265474
    greg press
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    @greg-press

    My London roadster weight is 1840 lbs including the extra weight welded into the front. Had to have it weighed for registration .          

    #265475
    russ
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    @irzetor

    Just put on a set of coil overs my brother had. Think they came off a harley. 13 1/4in eye to eye. Left the leaf hooked up. Set the springs on the highest setting and gave me 1 1/2 in. of sag. Rears had a broken bolt on the right rear that held the leaf set up to the frame. Made new spacers out of a boat trailer roller. Worked perfect. Rides great now. Need to tweek the charging system, no exciter to the regulator. Also need to install new tires, and might put one of my othere motors in it.

    #265476
    edward ericson
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    @edsnova

    Excellent news. 

    Please post pics of this; we’re all curious to see the details of your car’s unique suspension.
    #265477
    Medicine Man
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    @medicine-man

    I recently bought a London Roadster and am excited to now be a part of this forum. My car is in almost pristine condition but bottoms out on almost all potholes or uneven pavement. I checked the rear shocks and they are good. But, there is a bolt with 2 rubber pieces on it (looks like a miniature barbell) that connects the rear leaf springs to the chassis that is badly worn. Can anyone tell me what this is called and where I can purchase new ones.
    Thanks and God bless,
    Andy

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